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Old 17-11.-2008, 12:57 PM   #1
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Possible to transfer a WKO license to another machine? I want to download and run on a company laptop but don't want to give up a Franklin should I move on to another company.
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Old 17-11.-2008, 05:04 PM   #2
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Possible to transfer a WKO license to another machine? I want to download and run on a company laptop but don't want to give up a Franklin should I move on to another company.
Have you asked the supplier?

Usually they enable people to move licence across to another machine, e.g. I did when I last upgraded my PC.
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Old 17-11.-2008, 10:26 PM   #3
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Have you asked the supplier?

Usually they enable people to move licence across to another machine, e.g. I did when I last upgraded my PC.
In a round-a-bout way.

Since I couldn't find the issue on their forum I figured I'd post in a likely place they'd see it.

Seems like if they let you move a license, they should let me if I ever need to.

Thx.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 08:09 AM   #4
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Doggus-

You will need to buy a 2nd copy at 1/2 off to run on a second computer.
Sorry, we have had so many people try to pirate our software that we had to institute a strict anti-piracy program within WKO to make sure we didn't go out of business!
If you do move to another company, then you can email our support team
support@peaksware.com and let them know this situation and they will help you transfer the license to a new computer.

Hope this make sense.
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Possible to transfer a WKO license to another machine? I want to download and run on a company laptop but don't want to give up a Franklin should I move on to another company.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 08:35 AM   #5
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Doggus-

You will need to buy a 2nd copy at 1/2 off to run on a second computer.
Sorry, we have had so many people try to pirate our software that we had to institute a strict anti-piracy program within WKO to make sure we didn't go out of business!
If you do move to another company, then you can email our support team
support@peaksware.com and let them know this situation and they will help you transfer the license to a new computer.

Hope this make sense.
Hunter

I'm looking to buy WKO+, but my biggest concern is use on my laptop at home or when i'm travelling for work, i take my work laptop. Or if I go to my coach (who doesn't have WKO+ yet) to show him the data.

Can I install WKO+ into a Virtual PC image, stored on a USB stick and just boot the Virtual PC image and run the app? I found nothing in the terms and conditions against this kind of use.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 08:52 AM   #6
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Sorry, it won't run on a USB stick. It won't install.

Your coach should have a copy of WKO+ or he's not training you with power!
Get him on the train!

For traveling, just buy a second copy at 1/2 off and you are set at home and away.

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I'm looking to buy WKO+, but my biggest concern is use on my laptop at home or when i'm travelling for work, i take my work laptop. Or if I go to my coach (who doesn't have WKO+ yet) to show him the data.

Can I install WKO+ into a Virtual PC image, stored on a USB stick and just boot the Virtual PC image and run the app? I found nothing in the terms and conditions against this kind of use.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 09:05 AM   #7
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Sorry, it won't run on a USB stick. It won't install.

Your coach should have a copy of WKO+ or he's not training you with power!
Get him on the train!

For traveling, just buy a second copy at 1/2 off and you are set at home and away.

Hunter

I think you will find it will install. it will be installed inside of a functional version of windows XP, which is running off the USB stick. To the Application, it looks like it is running of C:\

It would be the same if I ran VMWare Fusion on an Apple Mac laptop to run WKO+ 2.2.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 09:13 AM   #8
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oh, that's just lovely. Guess, I'll need to spend another $50k to prevent that from happening. Jeez, everyone thinks that pirating software is so funny.
When you mortgage your house, put your butt on the line every day and feed your family and a few other families from a small software business, piracy is stealing to me.
I think I am going to come up with a bummer sticker that says, "Copying software is called Stealing".
Ugh.
thanks for making my night.
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I think you will find it will install. it will be installed inside of a functional version of windows XP, which is running off the USB stick. To the Application, it looks like it is running of C:\

It would be the same if I ran VMWare Fusion on an Apple Mac laptop to run WKO+ 2.2.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 09:26 AM   #9
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oh, that's just lovely. Guess, I'll need to spend another $50k to prevent that from happening. Jeez, everyone thinks that pirating software is so funny.
When you mortgage your house, put your butt on the line every day and feed your family and a few other families from a small software business, piracy is stealing to me.
I think I am going to come up with a bummer sticker that says, "Copying software is called Stealing".
Ugh.
thanks for making my night.
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Dude, seriously, how is this PIRATING software? There is nothing exclusionary in the Terms of Use... so if you don't want it, just change those. I'm not violating anything, i'm just using the software for myself. You are not suffering a loss here, i'm still buying the software, i'm just using technology to maximise MY use of the software.

Don't give me the shits about putting your butt on the line every day about developing software, as I come from a software development background. Just keep your terms of use up to date about correct and appropriate 'licenced use' for your intellectual property.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 09:55 AM   #10
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Changing terms of use now.
Will be updated by tomorrow, along with working on provisions inside the software to prevent this in the future.
Thanks again for pointing out this flaw.

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Dude, seriously, how is this PIRATING software? There is nothing exclusionary in the Terms of Use... so if you don't want it, just change those. I'm not violating anything, i'm just using the software for myself. You are not suffering a loss here, i'm still buying the software, i'm just using technology to maximise MY use of the software.

Don't give me the shits about putting your butt on the line every day about developing software, as I come from a software development background. Just keep your terms of use up to date about correct and appropriate 'licenced use' for your intellectual property.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 10:04 AM   #11
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Changing terms of use now.
Will be updated by tomorrow, along with working on provisions inside the software to prevent this in the future.
Thanks again for pointing out this flaw.

Hunter

No probs

The consult fee will be in the mail

Shame I won't be able to use it how I want to, but I guess that is the problem with getting to use someone elses IP; bound to their licencing restrictions.

Just kicking myself for not buying the software earlier when the Aussie dollar was stronger. It's 30% more expensive now than 6 months ago.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 02:35 PM   #12
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Yeah wouldn't want anybody to use their copy of the software they paid you for on their computer. Better force them to buy a second copy for no reason at all and claim it is due to "piracy"

Less restricitive or Free Software (go read up on GPL) is going to eat your lunch pal.
Enjoy your monopoly while you can.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 03:17 PM   #13
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Yeah wouldn't want anybody to use their copy of the software they paid you for on their computer. Better force them to buy a second copy for no reason at all and claim it is due to "piracy"

Less restricitive or Free Software (go read up on GPL) is going to eat your lunch pal.
Enjoy your monopoly while you can.
That's a bit rough. Hunter is free to determine the nature of licencing for his (excellent) niche product. And the market is free to make its choice. But free software it ain't.

I can think of 5 other software providers in similar space (power meter download/analysis, some of which are freeware), so I think Hunter is well aware of the competition.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 05:46 PM   #14
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That's a bit rough. Hunter is free to determine the nature of licencing for his (excellent) niche product. And the market is free to make its choice. But free software it ain't.

I can think of 5 other software providers in similar space (power meter download/analysis, some of which are freeware), so I think Hunter is well aware of the competition.
He most certainly is, but he should at least be aware of how similar actions in the past cost many a software company in the long term. Installing software (that you have paid for) onto a usb key so you can run it on two separate computers you own is not piracy. Plenty of seat based licenses do not restrict this considering the software is only running on one computer at any given time. His first reaction was to cry piracy which (in my mind) is not the kind of reaction you should expect from someone you just gave a hundred bucks to for software, especially if you are a paying customer.

My opinion and 10 cents will buy you a 10 cent cup of coffee.

Edit: Considering I just shelled out some hard earned cash for his and Andy's book it is disappointing to see such a reaction to a rational user request. I develop free software under GPL myself and get all kinds of irrational hatred thrown my way so don't misconstrue my criticism as such. Nobody was talking about stealing anything they just wanted to use the software they paid for.
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Old 18-11.-2008, 09:03 PM   #15
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I think you will find it will install. it will be installed inside of a functional version of windows XP, which is running off the USB stick. To the Application, it looks like it is running of C:\

It would be the same if I ran VMWare Fusion on an Apple Mac laptop to run WKO+ 2.2.


In my experience it will run off the memory stick but only on the computer you have the license for. I'm not able to install my own software on my work laptop, so my workaround was to install WKO+ onto a memory stick via my home computer, then run it on my work laptop and put the authorisation code into the work laptop. It runs fine.

But, it won't run on my home computer if I put the memory stick back in there. Only on the machine where I put the authorisation code in. (well, it will run, but only until it asks for a new authorisation code)

It does seem a shame that you can't run it on any machine via a stick, effectively a dongle. But there you go, it's an invaluable piece of software and my £££-worth of Powertap wheels would be worthless without it.

Also, the support is excellent, and if you're genuinely moving it from one machine to another (I'm helpless as to when my work are going to decide to upgrade my laptop) they'll sort it out for you straight away.
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